Dear
Viny,
I'm
married in an open/poly way. Actually my wife and I had together a
girlfriend in the past (but it didn't work out so well). She still
has (kind of) a boyfriend. The thing I'm bothered about is the fact
that he wants to go monogamous with her. I've already told her to talk
to him and explain that that will never be possible, but she likes
him very much. I, on the other hand, don't have currently a
girlfriend or a fixed partner. Actually I can go out with girls, but
I can't seem to find any girl interested in joining an existing open
relationship (we live in Berlin, Germany). Also, to make matters
worse, I tend to fall in love easily with the girls I go out with,
only to painfully find out later that they never even considered
anything serious to be possible with me. My question is: how to
handle such a relationship and such expectations? I'd appreciate if
you could help me.
–
D.
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Dear
D.,
Although
you have asked a general question – you want to know how you and
your wife can maintain a committed open relationship, given that the
people in your dating pool seem to simply assume that any serious relationship
entails sexual exclusivity – I would like to begin with the three
specific concerns you mention.
Concern
#1: Your wife's 'kind-of' boyfriend wants her to be monogamous with
him, and you have told her to tell him this isn't possible, “but
she likes him very much.” Whoa, wait a minute: what?! Is
your wife actually entertaining the idea of ending her sexual
relationship with you, so as to give this other guy what he wants? Or
is she merely hoping to string him along, because she is worried that
saying a firm “no” to monogamy with him will mean the end of their
relationship? I would suggest that the first thing you do is get
clear on why your wife is resisting this much-needed
talk with her boyfriend. The foundation of every successful
relationship is mutual trust and respect. And, in my opinion, trust
and respect is best fostered by being who you say you are. If your
wife would be willing to change the parameters of her relationship
with you in order to please her boyfriend, then she needs to tell you
so. If, on the other hand, she is not willing to change the
parameters of her relationship with you, then she needs to be upfront
with her boyfriend about where she stands. She cannot hope to have a
healthy relationship with either of you unless she understands her
own priorities and is willing to be honest about them.
Concern
#2: You can't find anyone who is interested in joining an existing open
relationship. Well, my friend, join the club! And by that, I mean the
club my boyfriend and I went to a couple of weeks ago, where we
spotted a coltish beauty dressed up as a unicorn, horn and all. (We
assumed, of course, that her costume was a deliberate advertisement
to couples searching for that rarest of beasts: the hot bi babe whose
sole ambition in life is to be a third wheel on the Tricycle of
Love.) Seriously, though, “we can't find someone who wants to date
both of us” is a very common
complaint among couples in open marriages. There are different
philosophies about how to deal with this problem, but I think
relationships should be allowed to develop organically. The
successful triads I know all formed in one of three ways: either one
member of a couple formed an intimate relationship with a third
person, who then, over time, became closer to the other member of the
couple; or an open couple and a single person started out as friends
only, and eventually, with no pressure from the couple whatsoever,
the single person became curious enough to ask about exploring
something more; or two couples got together and one person dropped
out of the quad. Remember, relationships between three individuals
are four times more complicated than relationships between two
people [A+B, A+C, B+C, and A+B+C vs. simply A+B], and therefore they
take more time to develop and require more time to maintain. I think
it's unwise to go looking for someone who is ready to sign up for a
serious relationship with a couple without some pre-existing intimacy
– either romantic intimacy with one member of the couple, or
friendly intimacy with both. If you did manage to find such a person,
the relationship would be unlikely to work out in the long run.
Concern
#3: You keep getting your heart broken, because you are looking for
love from the women you date, and the women you date are merely
looking for a good time. In other words, what you want doesn't match
up with what they want. So, I have to ask you: what are you doing to
communicate your hopes, desires, and expectations to the women you go
out with, and what are you doing to encourage them to communicate
theirs to you? Do you present your situation accurately, or are you
being misleading? Yes, I get it that nothing screams “Fun!” like a
two-hour conversation about relationship expectations. I'm not
suggesting that you bring your NVC manual and a talking stick on every first date. I'm suggesting that you hold off on falling
in love with people until you get to know each other well enough to
have a real conversation about what each of you is looking for.
(Okay, maybe you can't hold off on falling in love – but you can
hold off on developing
expectations about exactly where the relationship is going to go, and
try to just enjoy what is there, even if it isn't everything you're
hoping it might turn out to be. The problem is that you are becoming
attached to a certain outcome before you know whether that outcome is
even possible.)
Now,
to answer the question you asked. There is a
simple solution to your dilemma, but it's not a quick fix. It will
take time and patience and an unwavering commitment to showing up as
your real self in all your relationships.
Are
you ready? Here it is: restrict your dating pool to people who
already identify as non-monogamous. It may be more difficult for you
and your wife to find such people where you live, but I'm pretty sure
it can be done. Berlin
is a large city in a generally progressive country, and I would be
surprised indeed if there weren't at least a dozen like-minded folks
within a dozen kilometers of where you live. Your best chance of
finding them is by being open about being open. If that is not a risk
you are willing to take, try selectively expanding your social
circle. Work on making new friends who are more open to the idea of
open relationships. I hear the Internet is a great place to meet
people who are pre-selected to share a specific interest of yours: if
geocachers and rat fanciers and HAM radio enthusiasts can find each
other online, so can poly people! Dating sites that cater to people
in alternative relationships, or at least that do not require you to
be single in order to have a profile on their site, are especially
useful in this regard. I met many of my current poly friends via
OKCupid. Even though I had an active profile for only a few months,
several years back, I got to know some great people during that
period of time – and since then, those people have introduced me to
other great people (some of whom they
originally met on OKCupid).
Good luck! If it helps to imagine me here on the west coast of the USA, shaking my virtual pom-poms and cheering you on, please feel free.
Shnuppdiwupp & Alioop,
Viny
I guess this time you're a bit off. Even though Berlin is the largest German city I would infer from the sample of people from that area I met you've got a lesser chance of meeting the kind of people you're expecting there. Imagine something less like San Francisco and more lie Washington D. C. and you're getting in the right direction.
ReplyDeleteI was basing my "at least a dozen in a dozen square kilometers" on a very conservative estimate, rather than any knowledge of what dating is like in Berlin (the last time I was there was in the early 2000's, and I wasn't looking to date). However, having now crunched some numbers, I can say that Berlin, in 2013, had a population of 3,375,000 living within roughly 892 square kilometers. In other words, chances are that a third of the city's population is within 12 kilometers (in any direction) of where this couple lives. Even if only one percent of these people living nearby (remember, there are a million of them!) is open to *any* kind of dating, you're still working with ten thousand possibilities -- surely SOME of them will be open to non-monogamy!
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